The James Hansen "failed" prediction urban myth debunked:
Undoubtedly there will be claims this week that Scenario A was the most accurate projection of the forcings [Narrator: It was not]. Or they will show only the CO2 projection (and ignore the other factors). Similarly, someone will claim that the projections have been “falsified” because the temperature trends in Scenario B are statistically distinguishable from those in the real world. But this sleight of hand is trying to conflate a very specific set of hypotheses (the forcings combined with the model used) which no-one expects (or expected) to perfectly match reality, with the much more robust and valid prediction that the trajectory of greenhouse gases would lead to substantive warming by now – as indeed it has.
James Hansen did not predict in 1988 that "the west side highway would be underwater in 20 years".
"When I interviewed James Hansen I asked him to speculate on what the view outside his office window could look like in 40 years with doubled CO2. I had been trying to think of a way to discuss the greenhouse effect in a way that would make sense to average readers. I was not asking for hard scientific studies. "It was not a academic interview." It was a discussion with a kind and thoughtful man who answered the question. "
OK, so Hansen was asked to speculate what could happen to New York in 40 years, IF there was a doubling in the Co2 level. In an informal setting in conversation with an author.
HERE IS THE THING:
The book The Coming Storm and the Salon article that was printed later are different. In The Coming Storm, the question includes the terms; doubled CO2 and 40 years, while the Salon article, which is the one referred to by skeptics, does not mention the conditions; doubling of C02, and also says 20 years, not the correct 40 years.
To understand the discrepancy between these two published articles, it helps to look at the timeline of the events. The original conversation was in 1988. Ten years later, referring to his notes, Bob Reiss tells about the conversation in his book The Coming Storm. James Hansen confirmed the conversation and said he would not change anything he said. After the book was published, Bob Reiss spoke to a journalist at Salon article. Then he said:
"although the book text is correct, in remembering our original conversation, during a casual phone interview with a Salon magazine reporter in 2001 I was off in years.”
When journalist Bob Reiss retold the story, he made a mistake. Again, THE CONDITIONS WAS; 40 YEARS AND IF IT WAS a doubling IN C02. Check this yourself in Bob Reiss's book The Coming Storm.
We can check back in 2028, at the 40th anniversary, and also when and if we reach 560 ppm CO2 (a doubling from pre-industrial levels). Meanwhile, we can stop using this conversation from 1988 as a reason to be skeptical of the human origin of global warming.
ANYWAY, WEST HiGHWAY was UNDER WATER IN 2012:
Boken The Coming Storm og salon.com-artikkelen som ble trykket senere, er forskjellige. I The Coming Storm inkluderer spørsmålet betingelsene; doblet CO2 og 40 år, mens salon.com-artikkelen, som er selvsagt den det blir referert fra av skeptikere, ikke nevner betingelsene om doblet CO2, og dessuten involverer bare 20 år, ikke det riktige, 40 år. For å forstå uoverensstemmelsen mellom disse to publiserte artiklene, hjelper det å se på tidslinjen for hendelsene. Den opprinnelige samtalen var i 1988. Ti år senere, under henvisning til sine notater, forteller Bob Reiss om samtalen i sin bok The Coming Storm. James Hansen bekreftet samtalen og sa at han ikke ville endre noe han sa. Etter at boka ble publisert, snakket Bob Reiss til en journalist på salon.com om samtalen. Da sa han: "although the book text is correct, in remembering our original conversation, during a casual phone interview with a Salon magazine reporter in 2001 I was off in years.” DET ER ALTSÅ FORFATTER OG JOURNALISTEN BOB REISS, SOM INTERVJUET JAMES HANSEN, SOM HAR FORKLUDRET FAKTAENE. BETINGELSENE VAR ALTSÅ 40 ÅR OG HVIS DET BLE EN DOBBLING I C02. Sjekk dette selv i Bob Reiss bok The Coming Storm. Vi kan sjekke tilbake i 2028, på 40-års-markeringen, og også når og hvis vi når 560 ppm CO2 (en fordobling fra preindustrielle nivåer). I mellomtiden kan vi slutte å bruke denne samtalen fra 1988 som en grunn til å være skeptisk til den menneskelige opprinnelsen til global oppvarming. For ordens skyld: East Highway VAR under vann i 2012:





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